Posts by never a jw

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Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York

by Londo111 in

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

see last item:.

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".

never a jw

I think Johnamos makes a good case in favor of the Watchtower policies. The two witness rule is in both the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. My counter arguments would be:

the hell with the Bible's and christian religion's special privileges.

The moral values of the 21st century of most western democracies are more just and compassionate than those found in the Bible. I think the cowards are not people like Johamos, but the governments which cower and give too much latitude to religions to commit injustices that are unacceptable to our modern values.

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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

never a jw

Chaserious,

Isn't there a criminal element in action here. Obstruction of justice maybe, that seems to be intended to protect the monetary interest of an organization at the expense of the safety of children in the present and even the future. Is it possible that the very palpable refusal of the Watchtower to hand the "pedophiles documents" prompts a criminal investigation in the near future?

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WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

by AnnOMaly in

out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

never a jw

Crazy guy,

I will write this comment without looking at my notes from over a year ago, so expect that I may be off by a year or so. Year 568 BCE was the 37th year of Nabuchadnezzar II as registered in the Babylonian astronomical tablet 4956. This tablet contains about 35 astronomical observations about the moon, the 5 visible planets and some intervals between the sunset, moonset, moonrise and sunrise. This tablet is possibly our best document to confirm chronologies of the ancient Near East in the 6th century BCE including the destruction of Jerusalem, which according to the Bible happened in the 18th or 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar II (I may be slightly off). If you do the math, move back from 37th year of Neb II (568 BCE) in tablet 4956 to 18th or 19th year of Neb II (Bible date for the destruction of Jerusalem) and you arrive at 587/586 BCE.

As someone who had spent countless hours doing this research, I can assure you that there's no way that the accepted chronology is wrong and definitely not only is the Watchtower wrong, but they know it too, and therefore are lying.

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The Pope is not afraid to call the police about pedophiles.......

by sparky1 in

take note governing body of jehovahs witnesses (tm).

even the pope realizes that it is important to get the secular authorities involved in child molestation cases.

wake up and smell the coffee!!!.

never a jw

Talesin, Hortensia

This is a new pope, quite a different one from the previous one. Have you noticed? Give credit where and when credit is due. Just saying.

After learning all the B.S. surrounding religions I have become anti-religion, but that doesn't prevent me from noticing some good deeds or positive trends, often by religious individuals, even if they represent a larger body. This pope has been trying to move the religion in the right direction since he came into office. Can we give him a little credit.

Oh well, I guess you can always say that he has ulterior motives and his actions are not sincere.

JW thinking at its best. Everyone else is horrible!!!

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Not on JW.org: Just another day in paradise..Jehovah's Witnesses pedophile paradise. Another JW Servant rapes child and Elders do cover-up in California.

by Balaamsass2 in

southern california:.

monday pervy monday: ex-teacher's aide, butt slapping, tbn, mormons, jehovah witnesses.

by matt coker mon., nov. 24 2014 at 6:02 am 3 comments categories: court, crime-iny, gimme that oc religion, long beach, school daze .

never a jw

Now I understand what the governing body members mean in their recent speeches about "the governing body loves children"

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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

i just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.

imagine my delight!.

a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.

never a jw

I see a bunch of people wasting their time and making me waste time. Oh well, it's entertaining too

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The Pope is not afraid to call the police about pedophiles.......

by sparky1 in

take note governing body of jehovahs witnesses (tm).

even the pope realizes that it is important to get the secular authorities involved in child molestation cases.

wake up and smell the coffee!!!.

never a jw

Talesin, Hortensia,

Wow! Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

I guess once people turn way from religion, religious leaders of any kind can never be good no matter what they do. I thought I was the most cynical person in the world, but JW's and some exJW's can easily beat me to first place.

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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?

by Smart in

can someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.

i am not that clever.

i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.

never a jw

If you are not willing to take the time to thoroughly research the issue then don't go to the elders regarding it. Whole books have been written about it "Gentile Times Reconsidered". If you want to get the conviction that you and many millions have been lied to, then you have to work hard. I actually read the book and confirmed beyonfd any doubt that the Watchtower lies.

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11/30/2014 WT Study - take care of those who are all used up.

by OneEyedJoe in

was bored during today's indoctrination lesson, and you guys weren't generating enough content to keep me entertained, so i looked agreed at next week's a bit.

basically the point of the hour lesson is that once the society has completely used someone up, they're to be dumped on next of kin (or anyone who'll take 'em) to take care of 'em.

obviously the wts can't dip into any of the millions/billions that they're sitting on to pay for the support of ailing missionaries - they've got that money earmarked for new cult compounds and paying off victims of the pedophiles that they've protected over the years.. just another in a recent string of articles paying lip service to taking care of those that have given their life to the cult while they do absolutely nothing from their ivory towers.

never a jw

"They're a corporation. Thats what corporations do. Use up people"

Working for a corporation is completely voluntary, and quite often employees get paid very well. It's a two way street. It's a free country, so to speak; you can always quit before they use you up. Go to a sole proprietorship or a "mom and pap" business, or even better start your own business if you want to diminish the power of corporations. In other words, if you don't like something, fix it to your liking by doing something about it.

Sorry for the digression, but I can't let generalizations and "the powerful are evil" type of statements go unchallenged.

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A Non J-Dub paying a visit to KingDumb Hall!

by J-DUBBED in

i was thinking of doing a pop-in visit when they're doing their thing(what ever that might be).

to just see what it is that lures and hooks people, like our son.

i was worried there is some sort of subliminal messages in audio or video that start to brain-wash a person.

never a jw

As a non JW who dislikes the leadership of this religion with a vengeance, I wish I could be in your position so I can ask for a Bible study and have lots of fun asking them hundreds (I meant hundreds) of tough questions regarding their leaders and their doctrines of the past and the present. I can't do that anymore because I am a well know friend of the "apostates".

If you are not depressed, not socially needy or awkward, not a 12 year old or younger, not completely ignorant of the world around you, don't have an IQ less than 90, have a low level of education, then your chances of beeing sucked in are very tiny. I don't know much about your son. Something was certainly missing when he was fooled by this religion. You would know better.

Take a Bible study and have fun. Just be cautious not to let your teacher know that you know too much. Pretend, as they do.

Regarding getting your son out. Come to this blog often. You will learn about the religion more and more. The insight you get will improve your chances to get your son out.